Dynamic Discs discontinued this disc a couple of years ago, which was a shame. I had a 168g Renegade and it was one of my favorite discs when I had to shape an S turn shot. Alas, I lost it throwing over water and it has been a hole in my bag ever since. They have reintroduce it, but in the Lucid Air. I was able to find one at GGGT at 162g, and I can throw it a mile, but it is a little flippy at that weight. Hopefully they will reinstate the disc above 164g.
